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when i was elected to the united states senate last november, i never imagined that my maiden speech would be about guns or about gun violence. just like i could have never imagined that i'd be standing here in the wake of 20 little kids having died in sandy hook or six adults who protected them. but sometimes issues find you. and so here i am. i'm so pleased to have the majority leader, the majority whip and so many of my colleagues on the floor with me here today. i want to start, though, with the unpleasant part. i think it's important for all of my colleagues to understand why we're having this debate this week and next week about gun violence. why for the first time in decades we were able to break the log jam to try to do something about the waves of gun violence that have plagued this nation. it's easy to avert your eyes from the horror of what happened in newtown. it's easy to just box your ears and pretend that it didn't happen. but we can't ignore the reality, because it's here. and on a disturbingly regular basis, it's here. in columbine, in tucson, in aurora n sandy hook.
when i was elected to the united states senate last november, i never imagined that my maiden speech would be about guns or about gun violence. just like i could have never imagined that i'd be standing here in the wake of 20 little kids having died in sandy hook or six adults who protected them. but sometimes issues find you. and so here i am. i'm so pleased to have the majority leader, the majority whip and so many of my colleagues on the floor with me here today. i want to start, though,...
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only in the united states senate, the other body, could that take place. a vote of 54-46 would not pass. and so disheartening as it is and from reeling from the events that have taken place in boston on patriots day, children all across america cannot be reassured by their parents tonight that they are safe, but the n.r.a. will sleep well this evening. mission accomplished. but there's another chamber and an opportunity for the house of representatives to speak its will on the violence that has been perpetrated across this country and the commonsense background checks that are needed here in this country. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman yields back. the chair now lays before the house the following personal request. the clerk: leave of absence requested for mr. shimkus of illinois for today and tomorrow. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the request is granted. the speaker pro tempore: under the speaker's announce d policy mr. barrr, 2013, is recognized. mr. barr: i ask unanimous consent that all members m
only in the united states senate, the other body, could that take place. a vote of 54-46 would not pass. and so disheartening as it is and from reeling from the events that have taken place in boston on patriots day, children all across america cannot be reassured by their parents tonight that they are safe, but the n.r.a. will sleep well this evening. mission accomplished. but there's another chamber and an opportunity for the house of representatives to speak its will on the violence that has...
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the united states senate must be ready now to act. it must keep faith with those families and victims as the world watches, with benjamin andrew wheeler, age 6. his father, david, his is here today and he is here in spirit as we decide in the united states senate today whether we will move forward toward progress. ana grace marquez greene, also age 6, her mother melba is here today and she is with us in spirit. dylan hockley, age 6, whose mother nicole is here, also here in spirit. and jesse lewis, age 6. his father, neil hesland is here. mary sherlach, one of the six educators killed at sandy hook elementary, whose husband bill is here. jesse, mary are here with us, too. and we know that compromise and action are possible because two of our colleagues have forged a bipartisan compromise that will enable us to come closer. it is imperfect, it is less than what i would have preferred in achieving universal background checks, it is a starting point. it is a step in the right direction. and it will help us achieve a larger bipartisan com
the united states senate must be ready now to act. it must keep faith with those families and victims as the world watches, with benjamin andrew wheeler, age 6. his father, david, his is here today and he is here in spirit as we decide in the united states senate today whether we will move forward toward progress. ana grace marquez greene, also age 6, her mother melba is here today and she is with us in spirit. dylan hockley, age 6, whose mother nicole is here, also here in spirit. and jesse...
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states senate. we can vote for the manchin-toomey amendment supported by 90% of the american public which will make sure that less criminals have guns, something that just everybody out there, except for a subset of people in this chamber agree on. we can make the decision to take these dangerous assault weapons off the streets, allowing for thousands of weapons to still be legally purchasable, but to say that the most dangerous ones just should stay in the hands of the military and law enforcement. and we can say enough is enough when it comes to these high-capacity clips. we know that the shooting stopped in aurora and tucson when they exchanged magazines. we know the kids escaped in newtown when the shooter exchanged clips. less bullets per magazine means more people survive these mass shootings. we can do that today as well. and when we vote today, i'd suggest that of all the victims that we can think about -- and i have been coming down to this floor for the last two weeks talking about victims
states senate. we can vote for the manchin-toomey amendment supported by 90% of the american public which will make sure that less criminals have guns, something that just everybody out there, except for a subset of people in this chamber agree on. we can make the decision to take these dangerous assault weapons off the streets, allowing for thousands of weapons to still be legally purchasable, but to say that the most dangerous ones just should stay in the hands of the military and law...
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states senate. what about background checks on the second amendment? the gun lobby argues background checks are unconstitutional, given that justice scalia made it clear in the heller decision on the second and they said basically the second amendment is a personal right to bear arms, not the right of a militia, which it then argued for years. scalia said in that decision laws imposing qualifications on the sale of arms are presumptively lawful. there's no doubt at least in scalia's mind that a background check is consistent with the second amendment. the gun lobby also argues background checks are in effect is. you've heard this argument, how do you? all the law-abiding citizens who live by them, but the criminals won't. nearly 2 million prohibited purchasers have been blocked from buying a gun since background checks went into effect. there is so careless they try to buy a gun anyway. the argument that is why are there so many gun crimes committed? well, because they get done through other means,
states senate. what about background checks on the second amendment? the gun lobby argues background checks are unconstitutional, given that justice scalia made it clear in the heller decision on the second and they said basically the second amendment is a personal right to bear arms, not the right of a militia, which it then argued for years. scalia said in that decision laws imposing qualifications on the sale of arms are presumptively lawful. there's no doubt at least in scalia's mind that a...
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states senate failed to reach 60 votes. >> the bill fell six votes short of passing. this morning, the families and the president are vowing to try again. >> the man suspected of kidnapping and killing morgan hill teenager sierra lamar, antoine garcia torres is scheduled for a plea hearing. his plea has been delayed several times recently because of technical problems with dozens of photo discs and interview discs which prosecutors gave to the defense team. the defense says it does not want to enter a plea until it understands exactly what evidence the prosecution has. garcia torres being charged with kidnapping and murder in the disappearance of sierra lamar. that happened last year. her body has yet to be found. >> it is 4:49. oakland police hope that surveillance video will help catch a child molester. take a good look. the man seen running in this video is believed to have attacked a 7-year-old girl last saturday. police say the man posed as a maintenance worker to get into an apartment on oak and tenth street. police say at some point, he was alone in a room with
states senate failed to reach 60 votes. >> the bill fell six votes short of passing. this morning, the families and the president are vowing to try again. >> the man suspected of kidnapping and killing morgan hill teenager sierra lamar, antoine garcia torres is scheduled for a plea hearing. his plea has been delayed several times recently because of technical problems with dozens of photo discs and interview discs which prosecutors gave to the defense team. the defense says it does...
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guest: i think the senate of the united states let the american people down yesterday. it was hard for me to fathom some of the basic provisions that enjoyed the support of over 90 percent of americans were voted down. a majority of the senate supported it, but as you know, we have the rules that require 60 votes to a dance certain provisions. certainvance provisions. ad was probably my most disappointing day so far in my short tenure. host: are there a lot of nra members or gun owners in wisconsin? guest: there are many gun owners, just like the country, wisconsin is reflective of that, but i would say the hunting culture and tradition is very deep. if you think about last year's deer hunting season, over 650,000 hunting licenses were taken out in wisconsin. that is over 10 percent of the that participate in the enjoy is the tradition of hunting deer. there are other hunting seasons also. expandingdea of background checks and reducing the% of sales that take place without a background check was widely embraced. and the measures against trafficking. we all know too many
guest: i think the senate of the united states let the american people down yesterday. it was hard for me to fathom some of the basic provisions that enjoyed the support of over 90 percent of americans were voted down. a majority of the senate supported it, but as you know, we have the rules that require 60 votes to a dance certain provisions. certainvance provisions. ad was probably my most disappointing day so far in my short tenure. host: are there a lot of nra members or gun owners in...
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states senator's office is screened, tested, opened, and essentially checked to make sure it is clear before they pass it on to the capital complex. so it did not get anywhere close to the capital complex and jay carney told us today at the white house that it did not get anywhere close to the white house or to president obama. so, senator mcconnell was quite happy this morning. said justice would prevail. but said the bottom line was they learned a lot from those 2001 anthrax letter attacks and they made sure that these letters in this case did not get anywhere close to the lawmaker and to the president of the united states. and so bottom line the system worked in this case, bill. >> bill: yeah, one more thing here, mike. is the case considered closed or is there a possibility of more letters being received out there? >> they are on the lookout for other suspicious letters. we had a bunch of offices evacuated or cleared and has mat uniforms come into the capitol or offices around the capitol complex and also some to some district offices just to be abundantly cautious to make sure if
states senator's office is screened, tested, opened, and essentially checked to make sure it is clear before they pass it on to the capital complex. so it did not get anywhere close to the capital complex and jay carney told us today at the white house that it did not get anywhere close to the white house or to president obama. so, senator mcconnell was quite happy this morning. said justice would prevail. but said the bottom line was they learned a lot from those 2001 anthrax letter attacks...
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the united states senate must be ready now to act as. it must keep faith with those families and victims as the world watches with benjamin andrew wheeler, age six. his father david is here today and he is here in spirit as we decide in the united states senate today whether we will move forward toward progress. anna grace marques green also age six. her mother is here today and she is with us in spirit. dylan hockley age six whose mother nicole is here. also here in spirit and jesse lewis, age six. his father neal heslin is here. mary sherlach, one of the six educators killed at sandy hook elementary whose husband bill is here. jesse, mary are here with us to map. and we know that compromise and action are possible because two of our colleagues have formed a bipartisan compromise that will enable us to come closer. it is imperfect. it is less than what i would have preferred in achieving universal background checks. it is a starting point. it is a step in the right direction and it will help us achieve a larger bipartisan compromise bec
the united states senate must be ready now to act as. it must keep faith with those families and victims as the world watches with benjamin andrew wheeler, age six. his father david is here today and he is here in spirit as we decide in the united states senate today whether we will move forward toward progress. anna grace marques green also age six. her mother is here today and she is with us in spirit. dylan hockley age six whose mother nicole is here. also here in spirit and jesse lewis, age...
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. >> minority in the united states senate decided that it wasn't worth it. >> the amendment is not agreed to. >> even while these families looked on from the senate gallery. >> shame on you! >> the order in the senate -- >> i'm going to speak plainly and honestly about what's happened here. >> there's nothing like looking in the eyes of a still grieving parent. >> the gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill. >> we're trying to take it to the violent criminal. >> they were worried the gun lobby would spend a lot of money and paint them as anti-second amendment. >> criminals will not submit to background checks now. they will not submit to expanded background checks. >> they caved to the pressure and looked for any excuse to vote no. >> the way to stop violent crime is stop violent criminals. >> i heard some say blocking this step would be a victory. a victory for who? >> stop pandering to get an a-plus rating for the nra. >> i've heard folks sat they having the families of victims lobby for this legislation was somehow misplaced, a problem somebody called them. >> in some ca
. >> minority in the united states senate decided that it wasn't worth it. >> the amendment is not agreed to. >> even while these families looked on from the senate gallery. >> shame on you! >> the order in the senate -- >> i'm going to speak plainly and honestly about what's happened here. >> there's nothing like looking in the eyes of a still grieving parent. >> the gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill. >> we're trying to...
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a few minutes ago, a minority in the united states senate decided it was not worth it. they blocked commonsense gun reform even while these families looked on from the senate gallery. support universal background checks that make it harderwere talking about convicted felons, people convicted of domestic violence, people with severe mental illness. 90% of american support that already the law. a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it is not going to happen is 90% of republicans in the senate voted against that idea. a majority of senators voted yes to protecting more of our citizens with smarter background checks. minorityis continuing was able to block it from moving forward. i will speak lately and honestly about what happened. the american people are trying to figure out how it didn't happen. we had a democrat and a second amendment with a grades commonsense compromise oni want courage inem for the doing that. it was not easy given their traditional strong support for second amendment rights. as they said, no one could honestly cla
a few minutes ago, a minority in the united states senate decided it was not worth it. they blocked commonsense gun reform even while these families looked on from the senate gallery. support universal background checks that make it harderwere talking about convicted felons, people convicted of domestic violence, people with severe mental illness. 90% of american support that already the law. a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it is not going to happen is...
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states senate. what about background checks in the second amendment? well, the gun lobby argues that background checks are unconstitutional, even though justice scalia made it clear in the heller decision, a decision on the second amendment that said basically the second amendment is a personal right to bare arms, not the right of a militia which had been argued for years. scalia said in that position laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms are presumptively lawful. so there is no doubt, at least in scalia's mind that a background check is consistent with the second amendment. the gun lobby also argues that background checks are ineffective. you've heard this argument, haven't you? pass all the laws you want and all the law-abiding citizens will live by them but the criminals won't. here's what they fail to note. nearly two million prohibited purchasers have been blocked from buying a gun since background checks went into effect. they were so stupid, so careless, t
states senate. what about background checks in the second amendment? well, the gun lobby argues that background checks are unconstitutional, even though justice scalia made it clear in the heller decision, a decision on the second amendment that said basically the second amendment is a personal right to bare arms, not the right of a militia which had been argued for years. scalia said in that position laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms are presumptively...
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. >> this is a united states senate youth program sponsored by a famous magazine and newspaper company. what has been the most exciting thing for you? >> yesterday, meeting president obama. when he walked into the room, the energy and excitement and his power was palpable. you could feel it and see it and everyone's eyes. we were worried we would pass out. was amazing. >> what about you? >> president obama is hard to talk. -- top. also, some of the senators we saw. they were fantastic. obama was definitely number 1. >> one more question of you two and we will go to some of the rest. how were you picked to come here? >> from your state, you would start out about a base -- with a basic essay. you fill out an application process, your credentials, resonate, and letters -- resume, and letters. then they deliver it and pick winners. >> my application required a series of essays, teacher recommendations, and an interview in the capital. then they made the selection in early november. >> there is another question you have to give a speech to all these folks at your closing banquet. why are yo
. >> this is a united states senate youth program sponsored by a famous magazine and newspaper company. what has been the most exciting thing for you? >> yesterday, meeting president obama. when he walked into the room, the energy and excitement and his power was palpable. you could feel it and see it and everyone's eyes. we were worried we would pass out. was amazing. >> what about you? >> president obama is hard to talk. -- top. also, some of the senators we saw. they...
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when i was elected to the united states senate last november, i never imagined my name beachwood e. about god or about gun violence. just like i could never imagined he would be standing here in the wake of 20 little kids having died in cindy had her of those who protect them. sometimes issues fine you. so here i am. i'm so pleased with the majority leader and majority whip in so many colleagues on the floor with me here today. i want to start with the unpleasant part. it is important for my colleagues to understand why we're having this debate to speak at next week about gun violence in life for the first time we were able to break the logjam and do some things about how it's easy to avert your eyes from the horror of what happened in newtown. it's easy to box your ears weekend that it didn't happen. we can't ignore the reality because it's here and on disturbing regular basis it here in tucson, aurora, sandy hook. the next is just waiting to be added to the list if we do not saying. see you so happy. sometime in the early morning hours of december 14, a very disturbed, reclusive y
when i was elected to the united states senate last november, i never imagined my name beachwood e. about god or about gun violence. just like i could never imagined he would be standing here in the wake of 20 little kids having died in cindy had her of those who protect them. sometimes issues fine you. so here i am. i'm so pleased with the majority leader and majority whip in so many colleagues on the floor with me here today. i want to start with the unpleasant part. it is important for my...
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sglefrjts the united states senate let down an awful lot of people including the newtown families. i don't know how anybody who looked into the eye, could have voted the way they did today. >> michael: vice president joe biden summing up the failure of the senate to pass the manchin toomey gun legislation. six more votes were needed to overcome a filibuster. these four voted against it. minutes after the vote the progressive change campaign committee announced it will run ads against senator. harry reid supported the measure, but voted against it. that allows him to bring it up again for a vote. president obama put the blame squarely at the feet of senate republicans. >> obama: families that know unspeakable grief summoned the courage to petition their elected leaders, not just to honor the memory of their children, but to protect the lives of all of our children. a few minutes ago, a minority in the united states senate decided it wasn't worth it. >> michael: the amendment's odds looked so dim that joe manchin took to the senate floor this morning to make background a national sec
sglefrjts the united states senate let down an awful lot of people including the newtown families. i don't know how anybody who looked into the eye, could have voted the way they did today. >> michael: vice president joe biden summing up the failure of the senate to pass the manchin toomey gun legislation. six more votes were needed to overcome a filibuster. these four voted against it. minutes after the vote the progressive change campaign committee announced it will run ads against...
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the united states senate. this is what makes it broken. when ex-senators come on you and tell you it's broken, current senators claim no. every ex-senator -- >> 31 senators refuse to be the world's greatest deliberative body. >> they would have been judged as being pro-gun. >> thanks for the reality. tough reality, though. thank you, chuck todd. >>> today "politico" reported, "toomey has privately told democrats he hopes to sway six to eight of his gop colleagues to support the final package after all the amendments are resolved. yet right now the only solid republican votes on background checks are toomey and illinois senator mark kirk." they're the only republicans. what are the prospects for getting something passed in the senate after all the talk? senator angus king is an independent senator from maine who caucuses with the democrats. senator king, you're an independent guy. i want your views on what you see and smell on the floor of the united states senate. chuck todd said a lot of these senators, 31 of them, basically are afraid to
the united states senate. this is what makes it broken. when ex-senators come on you and tell you it's broken, current senators claim no. every ex-senator -- >> 31 senators refuse to be the world's greatest deliberative body. >> they would have been judged as being pro-gun. >> thanks for the reality. tough reality, though. thank you, chuck todd. >>> today "politico" reported, "toomey has privately told democrats he hopes to sway six to eight of his gop...
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begs the question what's happening over there in the united states senate, but we will continue to pursue this to make sure this legislation passes. also back in the 110th congress, then senator barack obama, sponsored the senate companion, quote, contractor and tax account act, end quote, to -- accountability act, end quote, but unfortunately that legislation did not progress in either chamber then. as president mr. obama has continued to fight for the contractors to be held accountabilityble. i concur with the president on this issue -- accountable. i concur with the president on this issue. this is bipartisan. we're going to spear head this here in the house of representative and make sure that it becomes law but the united states senate is going to have to step up and do something at some point. this is a good piece of legislation. h.r. 882 establishes a process through which persons with serious delinquent federal tax debts may be prohibited from receiving federal contracts and grants. legislation is designed to mandate the tax compliance be a prerequisite for receiving a federal con
begs the question what's happening over there in the united states senate, but we will continue to pursue this to make sure this legislation passes. also back in the 110th congress, then senator barack obama, sponsored the senate companion, quote, contractor and tax account act, end quote, to -- accountability act, end quote, but unfortunately that legislation did not progress in either chamber then. as president mr. obama has continued to fight for the contractors to be held accountabilityble....
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the united states senate are part of the most deliberative body in the world. they're supposed to deliberate. that means balancing the state's interest with the national interest. that is what our politicians are supposed to do. and that requires wisdom. it's just a matter of taking a poll in your state, anybody can do that. we're supposed to be electing people who take things to a higher level and sometimes do go against the interest of their constituents if it's truly in their national interest. >> i want to read you part of the nra statement. this amendment would have criminalized certain private transfers of firearms between honest citizens, requiring live long friends, some family members to get federal government permission to exercise a fundamental right or face prosecution. as we have noted previously, expanding background checks at gun shows or elsewhere will not reduce violent crime or keep our kids safe in the schools. what do you say today? >> well, i say that the nra has no money without the gun industry, and congress is in bed with the gun industr
the united states senate are part of the most deliberative body in the world. they're supposed to deliberate. that means balancing the state's interest with the national interest. that is what our politicians are supposed to do. and that requires wisdom. it's just a matter of taking a poll in your state, anybody can do that. we're supposed to be electing people who take things to a higher level and sometimes do go against the interest of their constituents if it's truly in their national...
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tomorrow, the gang of 8, so-called in the united states senate will be revealing its comprehensive immigration reform legislation legislation. marco rubio did seven sunday talk shows yesterday to try to take credit for all of the work that others have done on that issue. and it could be on gun control there could be a vote as early as wednesday on the universal background check compromise that was forged and hammered out by democrat joe manchion and pat toomey of pennsylvania. meanwhile, the mother of one of the sandy hook victims gave the weekw president's weekly address and an aussie won the mast erse. you will find out more about that on current tv. young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do re
tomorrow, the gang of 8, so-called in the united states senate will be revealing its comprehensive immigration reform legislation legislation. marco rubio did seven sunday talk shows yesterday to try to take credit for all of the work that others have done on that issue. and it could be on gun control there could be a vote as early as wednesday on the universal background check compromise that was forged and hammered out by democrat joe manchion and pat toomey of pennsylvania. meanwhile, the...
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had they been in the united states senate today, had they operated then the way the united states senate operates today, the civil rights legislation of 1964, the voting rights act of 1965 would not have been passed. 50 plus one is a majority. not 60 votes. >> all right. >> you know, mika, i've got to go back to the beginning of this session. there was a lot of talk about filibuster reform. i was out there talking about the need for filibuster reform. for whatever reason, the democrats didn't push. i remember saying it. the day they made the rules to get rid of the filibuster, make 50 plus one pass, if they had made that decision when they set up the senate, then this bill would have passed. i got to say just really quickly. i know we got to go to break, but mark halpern, kelly ayotte of new hampshire. voting against the bill, i don't know that she really helped her cause in new hampshire for re-election, did she? >> west joe look. the way a political price to pay which you're talking about and a lot of these members are not up right away in this cycle will be can they be candidates to r
had they been in the united states senate today, had they operated then the way the united states senate operates today, the civil rights legislation of 1964, the voting rights act of 1965 would not have been passed. 50 plus one is a majority. not 60 votes. >> all right. >> you know, mika, i've got to go back to the beginning of this session. there was a lot of talk about filibuster reform. i was out there talking about the need for filibuster reform. for whatever reason, the...
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states senate. >> bill: there is too many guns on the street. >> no, no. this is about mental health. every one of those heinous crimes was carried out by someone who is severely mentally ill. >> bill: right. but they get access to the guns. >> what this administration is doing is the worst. >> bill: but answer my question here. >> sure. >> bill: if you require firearms registration. >> right? >> right. >> therefore, the criminal doesn't register. >> um-huh. >> because they wouldn't. right? >> okay. >> the criminal wouldn't. >> okay. >> and they grab them either state, local, no matter, what or federal. you slap a 10 year mandatory on them. >> um. >>um that would control bad guys from getting guns. >> let's take the example then. let's apply your here to adam lanza and sandy hook. he didn't have those guns registered. his mother did. >> bill: right. >> he walks in and kills. >> could not stop it. >> could not stop it. >> and there would be not one of us would feel any better. >> bill: you could stop it in chicago with that little 15-year-old girl getting g
states senate. >> bill: there is too many guns on the street. >> no, no. this is about mental health. every one of those heinous crimes was carried out by someone who is severely mentally ill. >> bill: right. but they get access to the guns. >> what this administration is doing is the worst. >> bill: but answer my question here. >> sure. >> bill: if you require firearms registration. >> right? >> right. >> therefore, the criminal...
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when i was elected to the united states senate last november i never imagined my main speech would be about guns or gun violence. just like i never cut out imagined that i would be standing here in the wake of 20 little kids having died in sandy hook or six adults who protected them. but sometimes issues find you. so here i am. i am pleased to have the majority leader and majority whip and so many of my colleagues on the floor with me here today. i want to start with the unpleasant parts. i take it is important for all of my colleagues to understand why we're having this debate in next week about gun violence. why for the first time we were able to break the logjam and started doing something about the gun violence that has plagued this nation. to just box your ears and pretend it did not happen. just pretend it did not -- it is not here. it is here. the next new town names are does waiting to be added to the list if we do nothing. here is what we do. sometime in the early morning hours of december 14, a very disturbed, reclusive man named adam lanza went into his mother's arms and sh
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chamber. >> the united states senate let down people, including those newtown families. i don't know how anybody looks them in the eye could have voted the way they did today. >> john: and it was a sentiment echoed and magnified by president obama one our later as he spoke surrounded by victims of gun violence. >> obama: i heard some say blocking this step would be a victory. my question is a victory for who? a victory for what? victory for not doing something that 90% of americans, 80% of republicans, the vast out of your constituents wanted to get done? it begs the question who are we here to represent? i heard folks say having families lobby for this legislation was some how misplaced. a prop somebody called it. emotional blackmail some outlets said. are they serious? do we really think that thousands of families whose lives have been shattered by gun violence don't have a right to weigh in on this issue? do we think their emotions, their loss is not relevant to this debate? so all in all this was a pretty shapeshameful day for watch. >> we're joined by cofounder stop
chamber. >> the united states senate let down people, including those newtown families. i don't know how anybody looks them in the eye could have voted the way they did today. >> john: and it was a sentiment echoed and magnified by president obama one our later as he spoke surrounded by victims of gun violence. >> obama: i heard some say blocking this step would be a victory. my question is a victory for who? a victory for what? victory for not doing something that 90% of...
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senator's office, united states congressman's office or the president of the united states. the fact that it was discovered and is this a case of the system working? >> after september 11th, 2001, there were many changes that the public sees and many they don't. one of the more fundamental ones because of the anthrax incident was channeling all of that mail through a separate facility to detect for these kinds of pois n poisons and toxic chemicals. wi it's one of the many changes that make us a more resilient country. >> how much do we not learn about sometimes? is this a case where this would have been something we may not have learned about but because of what happened in boston everybody is on higher alert? >> i remember vividly i got sworn in on october 8th by then there had been several anthrax attacks and several thereafter. one of the first problems we had was the fact the field tests were inferior and a lot of false positives. horrible hoaxes. i would like to think in intervening ten years the fields tests and it seems from what i heard that field tests that said env
senator's office, united states congressman's office or the president of the united states. the fact that it was discovered and is this a case of the system working? >> after september 11th, 2001, there were many changes that the public sees and many they don't. one of the more fundamental ones because of the anthrax incident was channeling all of that mail through a separate facility to detect for these kinds of pois n poisons and toxic chemicals. wi it's one of the many changes that...
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, united states senate, and eventually electing barack obama, president of the united states of america. always more than a radio, it belonged to the community, was the heart of the community. so i congratulate melody spann cooper and all of those who made wvon what it is today. the voice of the nation. i thank you, mr. speaker, and yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess until noon today. and in the senate at this hour, work continues on gun control legislation. they will take a series of amendment votes beginning at 4:00 p.m. eastern. the first one on the manchin-toomey amendment, dealing with expanding background checks for those seeking to purchase a gun. the a.p. writing this morning that bipartisan effort to expand background checks is in deep trouble as the senate approaches a long-awaited approach on the linchpin of the drive to curb gun violence. that's from the associated press. and senator manchin said on nbc, we will not get the votes today. those votes expected to begin at 4:00 p.m
, united states senate, and eventually electing barack obama, president of the united states of america. always more than a radio, it belonged to the community, was the heart of the community. so i congratulate melody spann cooper and all of those who made wvon what it is today. the voice of the nation. i thank you, mr. speaker, and yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess until noon today. and in the...
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states senate. what about background checks? the gun large lobby argues it is unconstitutional even though justice scalia made it clear in the heller decision that said basically second amendment is a personal right to bear arms not the rights of the militia but laws imposing conditions and qualifications of the commercial sale of arms are lawful so there is no doubt in his mind that a background check is consistent with the second amendment and it also argues background checks are ineffective. you have heard this. pass all laws that you want and the law-abiding citizens to live by them but the criminals want. nearly 2 million prohibited purchasers have been blocked from buying a gun since back run checks went into effect so careless and stupid they tried anyway. they were stopped. why are there so many crimes committed? because they get the guns through another means through the ads in the newspaper that i mentioned revere and the argument that unless all lot is airtight we should not pass it will
states senate. what about background checks? the gun large lobby argues it is unconstitutional even though justice scalia made it clear in the heller decision that said basically second amendment is a personal right to bear arms not the rights of the militia but laws imposing conditions and qualifications of the commercial sale of arms are lawful so there is no doubt in his mind that a background check is consistent with the second amendment and it also argues background checks are ineffective....
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enforcing the law in the united states of any kind is tough. we provide rights and privileges to people that come in contact with law enforcement. just a few loopholes in the procedure can make it virtually impossible to effectively do what they are asked to do. as these officers will tell you on this administration than aggressively defied federal law. we can have no confidence and promises of future law enforcement until the current constitutional rule of law is up help. like in 2007, the special interests were brought in. they have been engaged behind closed doors. they helped write a bill while the law first and officers, the ones giving the duty to make sure the law is complied with, have been shut out as has been the public interest. and the interest of working americans, in my view. is amnestybill before enforcement. it is a promise ofnforcement read the promises of enforme in the future appeared to be even weaker than they were in 2007. today the bill passes, it illegal immigrants will have the presumption of amnesty and all secretary n
enforcing the law in the united states of any kind is tough. we provide rights and privileges to people that come in contact with law enforcement. just a few loopholes in the procedure can make it virtually impossible to effectively do what they are asked to do. as these officers will tell you on this administration than aggressively defied federal law. we can have no confidence and promises of future law enforcement until the current constitutional rule of law is up help. like in 2007, the...
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states senate. i'm the world's worst cleaning lady. i'm here in your home, having a pretty spectacular tuesday. ♪ but i don't notice the loose rug at the top of your stairs. and that's about to become an issue for me. ♪ and if you got the wrong home insurance coverage, my medical bills could get expensive. so get allstate. [ dennis ] good hands. good home. make sure you have the right home protection. talk to an allstate agent. make sure you have the right home protection. we believe it can be the most valuable real estate on earth. ♪ that's why we designed our newest subaru from the back seat forward. introducing the all-new, completely restyled subaru forester. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >>> what impact did these families specifically, their presence this week, have on your breakthrough? >> i'm a parent, i'm a grandparent. it's this, i'll share. i can't imagine. i can do something. i can do something. >> that was west virginia democratic senator joe manchin trying to answer th
states senate. i'm the world's worst cleaning lady. i'm here in your home, having a pretty spectacular tuesday. ♪ but i don't notice the loose rug at the top of your stairs. and that's about to become an issue for me. ♪ and if you got the wrong home insurance coverage, my medical bills could get expensive. so get allstate. [ dennis ] good hands. good home. make sure you have the right home protection. talk to an allstate agent. make sure you have the right home protection. we believe it can...
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states senate. and if this bill were to ever pass into law, its impact would be to hurt workers, not help them. how many more times do we need to waste taxpayer dollars on political messaging bills like this rather than pursue legislation that will actually help the middle class? 10 more times? 20 more times? is this all we can expect to accomplish over the next year and a half? americans want democrats and republicans to work together. let's end the political posturing. let's get america back to work. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from minnesota. mr. kline: mr. speaker, i yield three minutes to a real leader on this issue, the gentleman from arkansas, mr. womack. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from arkansas is recognized for three minutes. mr. womack: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the chairman. you know, mr. speaker, our framers were visionaries. they had the foresight to not only establish constitutional principles
states senate. and if this bill were to ever pass into law, its impact would be to hurt workers, not help them. how many more times do we need to waste taxpayer dollars on political messaging bills like this rather than pursue legislation that will actually help the middle class? 10 more times? 20 more times? is this all we can expect to accomplish over the next year and a half? americans want democrats and republicans to work together. let's end the political posturing. let's get america back...
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states senator. that also is the subject of the investigation by the fbi. and for more information about these matters, i refer you to the fbi. the president i'm sure you'll ask this, the president of course has been briefed on these letters. he was briefed last night and against this morning. secondly, there is obviously a lot of interest in the explosions in boston, and i wanted to make clear, as you heard from the president yesterday, that our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and to their families who were injured. those who were injured as well as killed in this heinous and cowardly act. the full weight of the federal government is behind this investigation, which is being led by the fbi, and as the president said, we will find out who did this, we will find out why, and we will bring those responsible to justice. that said, it is very important that we allow this investigation to run its full course and to ensure that we retain the integrity of that investigation. therefore, on matters r
states senator. that also is the subject of the investigation by the fbi. and for more information about these matters, i refer you to the fbi. the president i'm sure you'll ask this, the president of course has been briefed on these letters. he was briefed last night and against this morning. secondly, there is obviously a lot of interest in the explosions in boston, and i wanted to make clear, as you heard from the president yesterday, that our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and to...
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majority does not rule any longer in the united states senate. and the president didn't mince any words when it came to the nra. >> obama: instead of supporting this, they fully lied about the bill. they claimed it would create some sort of big brother gun registry even though the bill did the opposite. this legislation in fact, outlaud any registry. plain and simple right there in the text. but that didn't matter. >> bill: didn't matter. i got to tell you man, this is personal with me. we've talked about -- i've been around politics a long time. i've been -- at every level. run campaigns local campaigns state campaigns national campaigns, i've been a candidate myself. i was chair of the california democratic party. i've raised millions of dollars for candidates and supported candidates. for a long time. and i've known a lot of fun and a lot of joy and a lot of disappointments along the way, too. lost campaigns candidates i supported lost, causes i supported didn't make it. some of the people i helped elect disappointed me because they forgot who
majority does not rule any longer in the united states senate. and the president didn't mince any words when it came to the nra. >> obama: instead of supporting this, they fully lied about the bill. they claimed it would create some sort of big brother gun registry even though the bill did the opposite. this legislation in fact, outlaud any registry. plain and simple right there in the text. but that didn't matter. >> bill: didn't matter. i got to tell you man, this is personal with...
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states senate. flying is old hat for business travelers. the act of soaring across an ocean in a three-hundred-ton rocket doesn't raise as much as an eyebrow for these veterans of the sky. however, seeing this little beauty over international waters is enough to bring a traveler to tears. we're putting the wonder back into air travel, one innovation at a time. the new american is arriving. >>> what impact did these families specifically, their presence this week, have on your breakthrough? >> i'm a parent, i'm a grandparent. it's this, i'll share. i can't imagine. i can do something. i can do something. >> that was west virginia democratic senator joe manchin trying to answer the question of what the presence of the families from newtown, connecticut in washington this week has meant to his efforts to craft a compromise with republicans on gun safety legislation. today, manchin and republican senator pat toomey announced a bill that would expand the background system to cover all commercial gun sale
states senate. flying is old hat for business travelers. the act of soaring across an ocean in a three-hundred-ton rocket doesn't raise as much as an eyebrow for these veterans of the sky. however, seeing this little beauty over international waters is enough to bring a traveler to tears. we're putting the wonder back into air travel, one innovation at a time. the new american is arriving. >>> what impact did these families specifically, their presence this week, have on your...
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something addressed to the united states senator, it came from a guy in mississippi who is apparently a frequent letter writer. they could tell from the tone of the letter. dropped the letter in memphis, tennessee but from the nature of the writing, they were able to figure out who they believe is behind it. you better believe that federal authorities are going to have questions for that person. >> greta: it's amazing when people do things like this, they put their names -- a series of letters they have be been writing and point the finger at themselves. >> absolutely. there is concern for the united states postal service, there were a number of employees before it got to the senate facility outside of washington, d.c. if you were driving a united states mail truck and had this parcel in the back of your truck obviously you would have concerns. good news you are alive but you had some deadly stuff in the truck. >> greta: any idea where he got the ricin. >> we have not heard anything about that. that is something authorities may know. they may be withholding because they want to talk t
something addressed to the united states senator, it came from a guy in mississippi who is apparently a frequent letter writer. they could tell from the tone of the letter. dropped the letter in memphis, tennessee but from the nature of the writing, they were able to figure out who they believe is behind it. you better believe that federal authorities are going to have questions for that person. >> greta: it's amazing when people do things like this, they put their names -- a series of...
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was nothing more than a club for sportsmen and hunting in those states yesterday afternoon the united states senate rejected the mansion to me compromise amendment that would have expanded background checks for gun purchases. on his vote the yeas are fifty four the nays are forty six under the previous order requiring sixty votes to be adopted this amendment the admin meant is not agreed to time. mr president. although the media has taken to referring to the measure as a gun control bill i'd hesitate to call it that what the senate voted down yesterday was well accounts a moderate and practical extension of already existing rules governing the sale receipt of firearms the proposed amendment did not include a ball a ban on assault weapons didn't create a national gun registry and it should according to the constitution of become the law as it got more than fifty votes in the u.s. senate more than fifty percent but the republicans chose to filibuster it and for spineless democrats joined them why is the national rifle association and its allies in the senate have spent the last week spr
was nothing more than a club for sportsmen and hunting in those states yesterday afternoon the united states senate rejected the mansion to me compromise amendment that would have expanded background checks for gun purchases. on his vote the yeas are fifty four the nays are forty six under the previous order requiring sixty votes to be adopted this amendment the admin meant is not agreed to time. mr president. although the media has taken to referring to the measure as a gun control bill i'd...
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i gave a speech on the floor of the united states senate last evening on this issue. talking to individual senators, participating in our caucuses. we had an emotional caucus yesterday. give begin heard was there, senator joe met -- getty giffords was there, senator joe manchin gave a speech. senator tim came from virginia talked about what happened at virginia tech. senator blumenthal talked about his experiences at sandy hook. it was an emotional day. host: here is a media advisory put out by senator dan coats office. be in aenators will press conference to introduce substitute amendment to gun legislation that they say would fix the background check system , provide resources to address mental health and school safety and protect veterans from false health declarations. host: it is an effort to give cover for people voting against gun safety legislation. it will contain the loopholes we currently have in law. the gun show loophole, the internet issues -- they are not resolving his legislation. so, it is a never to say to people who vote for it, "we really are for g
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two united states senators both republicans? >> correct. one of them is ted cruz. >> you can have ted cruz back. >> he might be right of republican. >> that's right. calling him a republican is probably insulting him. right? and then, in the house, you have 36 members of the house of representatives from texas? >> uh-huh. >> how many democrats? >> i don't know the new numbers. i don't know. >> okay. >> but we have gone up. in 2010 it was just a disaster. >> sheila jackson lee, i know. >> yeah, sheila jackson lee, al green and gene green and they are on significant committees. >> let's say three out of 36. hum? >> uh-huh. >> what are the chances, then? i keep hearing that texas might be getting a little purple and it may be even chances of turning blue. i don't see the evidence of it. why do you think there is a chance? >> one of the things i tell people all the time, they always want to talk demographics. i say demographics are not destiny. yes, they help and the demographics in texas are changing but they are not destiny. you have to do th
two united states senators both republicans? >> correct. one of them is ted cruz. >> you can have ted cruz back. >> he might be right of republican. >> that's right. calling him a republican is probably insulting him. right? and then, in the house, you have 36 members of the house of representatives from texas? >> uh-huh. >> how many democrats? >> i don't know the new numbers. i don't know. >> okay. >> but we have gone up. in 2010 it was...
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a senate pin may allow us access to the floor of the united states senate without passing through security, but it doesn't get you into kelly middle school, nor should it. they have a simple, practical system. if you're visiting during school ours you buzz in and announce yourself. and then they decide whether that individual can enter through another set of locked doors. the double locks are a system that some schools are considering to implement. it's a sensible policy that is enabled by an intercom system and a camera. again, minimal costs compared to many other infrastructure programs that we may be considering this year. in middle town i visited snowe elementary school. principal james gudroe demonstrated how their doors are locked and when a person is buzzed in, video cameras record and archive who is entering. some schools have archiving systems, others do not. law enforcement knows that archiving is important, as chief william mckenna and mayor duran droot told me, these systems are planning that was undertaken even before sandy hook. school systems and boards and administrators an
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states senate today decided that the national response to the massacre of first graders in newtown, connecticut, should be nothing, after they voted to filibuster even the bipartisan background check measure that's supported by 90% of americans, after that happened today, president obama did something new. the president almost never responds to specific legislation that's getting voted down, much less responding right after that legislation is voted down, much less making that response in the rose garden of the white house in a formal set of remarks, but today the president responded in the rose garden even while other votes for still happening on subsequent measures on gun reform. the president was joined at the podium by family members of kids who were killed at newtown and other survivors of gun massacres. it was a remarkable sight. it was a remarkable sight in particular to see the father of one of the little boys who was killed at newtown standing himself at the presidential podium with the presidential seal on it and everything making his case, making his family's case to the
states senate today decided that the national response to the massacre of first graders in newtown, connecticut, should be nothing, after they voted to filibuster even the bipartisan background check measure that's supported by 90% of americans, after that happened today, president obama did something new. the president almost never responds to specific legislation that's getting voted down, much less responding right after that legislation is voted down, much less making that response in the...
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states senate. i urge my colleagues to vote no on the rule and yes on the underlying bill and i would yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. woodall: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself the balance of me time. i thank my friend from florida for his service on the rules committee and his service on the intelligence committee. the work that goes on on the intelligence committee, mr. speaker is work that so many members of congress co-not involve themselves in. it goes on deep in the bowls of the cap -- bowels of the capitol complex, it's great security, all electronic devices left outside the door, they can discuss things within the four twhifles committee that we're not allowed to discuss things. when they asked me to hand they will rule, i was concerned, because throughout this process of developing cispa, i've traveled down to that committee room time and time again in order to understand the threats that th
states senate. i urge my colleagues to vote no on the rule and yes on the underlying bill and i would yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back his time. the gentleman from georgia. mr. woodall: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself the balance of me time. i thank my friend from florida for his service on the rules committee and his service on the intelligence committee. the work that goes on on the intelligence committee, mr. speaker is work that so...
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today i choose to vote my conscience, not only is harry reid a united states senator but also a a husband, a father, a grandfather and i hope friend of lots and lots of people, i choose to vote my conscience because, if tragedy strikes again, i'm sorry to say, mr. president, it will, if innocents are ung.a.o.d down in a classroom, theater or restaurant, i would have trouble living with myself aes a senator, as a husband, a fathers, or grandfather and friend, knowing that i didn't do everything in my power to prevent that incident. mr. mcconnell: mr. president? the presiding officer: the republican leader. mr. mcconnell: last few days have been trying ones for our nation. monday's attack in boston reminded us that terrorism can still strike anywhere a at any time. and as yesterday's news of an attempt to send ricin to the capitol reminds you it is important as ever to take the steps necessary to protect americans from those who would do us harm. and this morning i'd like to recognize the postal and law enforcement officials for their excellent work in detecting and preventing this threat b
today i choose to vote my conscience, not only is harry reid a united states senator but also a a husband, a father, a grandfather and i hope friend of lots and lots of people, i choose to vote my conscience because, if tragedy strikes again, i'm sorry to say, mr. president, it will, if innocents are ung.a.o.d down in a classroom, theater or restaurant, i would have trouble living with myself aes a senator, as a husband, a fathers, or grandfather and friend, knowing that i didn't do everything...
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we don't in the united states. ics paying the price and the taxpayers pay the price. host: bill badey tweets -- one of the amendments the senate will be voting on today. guest: in terms of the current background checks, once a name goes on the list by virtue of an adjudication at the state/local level, it is one of the areas where there is the least complete records in the background system, as they say. what we are voting on today is not really going to change that definition, but, rather, look at these issues especially in schools and provide more resources for outreach to those with mental illness. host: do you support the idea of people with mental illness or have had episodes of mental illnin i think it is well agreed that if you have a felony conviction or have an adjudication relating to dangerousness to self or others, it makes sense, and we and it should be the law of the land that you are denied the ability to purchase a gun. what i would want to say emphatically is that being dangerous and mentally ill is not synonymous with being -- diagnosed with having a
we don't in the united states. ics paying the price and the taxpayers pay the price. host: bill badey tweets -- one of the amendments the senate will be voting on today. guest: in terms of the current background checks, once a name goes on the list by virtue of an adjudication at the state/local level, it is one of the areas where there is the least complete records in the background system, as they say. what we are voting on today is not really going to change that definition, but, rather,...
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states senate. moments ago, standing with parents from newtown, connecticut, the president railed against the senate. >> so, all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. but this effort is not over. i want to make it clear to the american people, we can still bring about meaningful changes that reduce gun violence so long as the american people don't give up on it. >> pelley: of course, opponents of gun control are elated by the decision, and we will start our coverage with chip reid at the capitol. >> on this vote, the yays are 54, the nays are 46. >> reporter: for supporters of gun control, including vice president joe biden, it was a major defeat. they fell short of the 60 votes needed to adopt an amendment requiring background checks for people who buy guns at gun shows and over the internet. under current law, background checks are required only for sales handled by licensed gun dealers. 60 votes were required because that is what it would take to overcome a republican-led filibus
states senate. moments ago, standing with parents from newtown, connecticut, the president railed against the senate. >> so, all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. but this effort is not over. i want to make it clear to the american people, we can still bring about meaningful changes that reduce gun violence so long as the american people don't give up on it. >> pelley: of course, opponents of gun control are elated by the decision, and we will start our coverage...
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states. newtown families and tucson survivors standing with the president at the white house when he made those remarks. many of them today were looking on in the senate as the background checks bill was filibustered. there's a lot to explain what happened there in that story and what happens next. this is, clearly, the biggest policy story in this president's second term thus far, by far it is. but also in the midst of all of this, still today, the country is riveted to the continuing news out of boston after the bombing of the boston marathon two days ago. the first thing you need to know what happened today in the news about boston is some of what you may have heard today out of boston was flat-out wrong. >> again, i have a boston source, fran townsend has a second source, in fact, an arrest has been made on wednesday. here's what fran's source said, an arrest has been made based on two different videos showing images of the suspect. i was told the video enhancement showed a dark-skinned m
states. newtown families and tucson survivors standing with the president at the white house when he made those remarks. many of them today were looking on in the senate as the background checks bill was filibustered. there's a lot to explain what happened there in that story and what happens next. this is, clearly, the biggest policy story in this president's second term thus far, by far it is. but also in the midst of all of this, still today, the country is riveted to the continuing news out...
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states. these attacks also hit home for me and others of us who have worked at the courthouse. i spent part of my life as a prosecutor and a judge in texas. bad guys come to the courthouse charged with everything from stealing to killing, and i, like many others, had threats on several occasions but fortunate for me law enforcement officers in houston, texas, made sure those threats were never carried out. but as we've seen this year, sometimes the bad guys are successful in attacking and killing folks that work at the courthouse. law enforcement officials, prosecutors and judges do the work that many people just won't do or will do. they deliver justice to criminals knowing they face the threat of retaliation when they administrator justice. hese individuals -- administer justice. these individuals enforce the law. that's why i'm introducing the line of duty act. senator cornyn has introduced a similar bill in the senate. this bill would beef up protections for prosecutors and judges who are
states. these attacks also hit home for me and others of us who have worked at the courthouse. i spent part of my life as a prosecutor and a judge in texas. bad guys come to the courthouse charged with everything from stealing to killing, and i, like many others, had threats on several occasions but fortunate for me law enforcement officers in houston, texas, made sure those threats were never carried out. but as we've seen this year, sometimes the bad guys are successful in attacking and...